Info-Atari16 Digest Wed, 5 Feb 92 Volume 92 : Issue 68 Today's Topics: .SPS picture viewer? ///\_ "Head and Serve" Sozobon HELP! ///\_ 1040ST w/ sequencing sw for sale A couple of UNIXMODE and MiNT questions Atari 1040 STfm forsale Atari Advertises C, gem and sound questions FTP GCR help How to make a gnu cross-compiler?? HVDI? Maple For sale MIDI National (U.S.) Magazine Advertises Atari! (see message for details) pcditto software on a TT? Several Question that need answered STe and Mark Williams C TOS 1.4 ROM problem Welcome to the Info-Atari16 Digest. The configuration for the automatic cross-posting to/from Usenet is getting closer, but still getting thrashed out. Please send notifications about broken digests or bogus messages to Info-Atari16-Request@NAUCSE.CSE.NAU.EDU. Please send requests for un/subscription and other administrivia to Info-Atari16-Request, *NOT* Info-Atari16. Requests that go to the list instead of the moderators are likely to be lost or ignored. If you want to unsubscribe, and you're receiving the digest indirectly from someplace (usually a BITNET host) that redistributes it, please contact the redistributor, not us. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 Feb 92 08:57:21 GMT From: email!eimoni.tuwien.ac.at!KDV_521@uunet.uu.net Subject: .SPS picture viewer? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <60323@aurs01.UUCP>, whitcomb@aurs01.uucp (Jonathan Whitcomb) writes: >I've come across some Spectrum files that use the extention *.SPS, and none >of my picture viewers can handle them. I have no problem viewing *.SPC and >*.SPU files, but not *.SPS. > >Does anyone know of a viewer that can display these? I don't know any viewer, but I've come across a doc which describes this Spectrum Smooshed format (among others). It's somewhere in one of the popular ftp sites for the atari st called picfmt.lzh ... Marinos Yannikos kdv_521@eimoni.tuwien.ac.at ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 92 04:23:25 GMT From: agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!an172@ames.arpa (Marc A. Lombardo) Subject: ///\_ "Head and Serve" Sozobon HELP! ///\_ To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I just recently downloaded the new "Head and Serve" version of the Sozobon C compiler from the atari.archive ftp site. The installation program and GEMENV program helped me a lot, and now I am able to compile C programs without any trouble. Or, as it seemed... You see, the problem is, the example files compiled perfectly, and the first couple of programs I wrote by myself worked perfectly. I setup a .MAK file to compile them, using the structure in the example .mak files. They still compile perfectly. I am following the C-manship tutorial to learn C, and I have come to the fourth chapter. I tried to compile the program from the .c program on the c-manship disk and it didn't work. I am willing to send the .c program file and the .mak file I am using to anyone who is familiar with the Sozobon C compiler and is willing to help me out. If you have a recommendation or want to help, please send me email at mlombar@caticsuf.csufresno.edu or an172@cleveland.freenet.edu. Here are the errors I received: (After double clicking my c4prg1.mak file, the screen looks like:) cc.ttp \cmanship\chap4\c4prg1.c -o \cmanship\chap4\c4prg1.tos aesfast. a vdifast.a dlibs.a (Now it accesses the hard drive for a while, and seems to be working okay!) ld: undefined symbol '_abs' from module .\c4prg1 ld: undefined symbol '_fpltof' from module .\c4prg1 ld: undefined symbol 'fpdiv' from module .\c4prg1 ld: undefined symbol 'fpmul' from module .\c4prg1 ld: undefined symbol '_fpftol' from module .\c4prg1 ld: Unknown symbol of bad symbol type '_abs' cc: loader failed make: Return code 1 I was hoping that using the command #include or another command might help, but it didn't. Also, I did edit out the command #define VOID /**/ which was used later in the program (and I deleted all occurences of VOID) I didn't see a use for it, since it was just a comment without any text within it! Any help would be greatly appreciated! -- Marc A. Lombardo User Address: an172 /-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\-/-\ Compuserve: >INTERNET: an172@cleveland.freenet.edu Internet/BitNET: an172@cleveland.freenet.edu Atari ST,MIDI,Music ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 92 00:13:40 GMT From: rosie!next.com!pbern@uunet.uu.net Subject: 1040ST w/ sequencing sw for sale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu For sale: Atari 1040ST Steinbergs pro 24 III software Editor/Librarians for : MT32, FB01, Matrix 1000, DX7 Laser-C Personal Pascal Games, Cad, etc $600.00 + 50/50 shipping email pbern@next.com or call 415/780-4507 ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 01:59:39 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!mips!pacbell.com!att!oucsboss!oucsace!bwhi te@arizona.edu (William E. White) Subject: A couple of UNIXMODE and MiNT questions To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I have a couple of questions about UNIXMODE (about which I know basically next to nothing except what I read on terminator) ... 1. If I'm interpreting the documentation correctly, extended filenames are stored in an actual file somewhere. Um, ... maybe I'm missing something here, but ... wouldn't it be just as simple to use the unused bytes in the directory (about 31 of them I think)? Or are they reserved? 2. Does MiNT (which I haven't played with either) grok this wonderful system? How about the shells out there? I'd really like to be able to forget that I'm not working on a Unix box. (Yes, John, I know -- I should buy a sparc!) 3. Exactly how slow IS MiNT? Are there any decent accelerator boards out there if it is on the unspeedy side? Again, thanks for your time. -- | Bill White +1-614-594-3434 | bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (normal) | | Standard login hours: | bwhite@view.cs.ohiou.edu (alternate) | | 1-3,5-7PM EST M-F (oucsace) | more info via `finger bwhite@view...' | ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 92 06:15:26 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!galileo.cc .rochester.edu!news@arizona.edu Subject: Atari 1040 STfm forsale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I would like to sell my 1040STFM to get some softwares for my STe. The configuration is as follow: Atari 1040STFM TOS 1.0 in ROM 1 double sided double density floppy drive 1 Megabyte of RAM RF modulator and all other stuff that is standard for an ST Price: $235 + shipping Please e-mail me for any question. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jan 92 21:37:05 GMT From: walter!porthos!nvuxl!rrk@uunet.uu.net (24115-kutz) Subject: Atari Advertises To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu No one else has mentioned this, so I will. I saw my first Atari magazine advertisement for the ST in years: the most recent Discover magazine shows an ST/MIDI setup, even mentions Atari ST (and other companies whose equipment contribute to the music setup). The opposing page is an ad for the Portfolio. Made my day. Randy Kutz rrk@nvuxl.cc.bellcore.com ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 92 02:18:02 GMT From: noao!ncar!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!milton!tymbrimi@arizona.edu (Ben Gilbert) Subject: C, gem and sound questions To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Feb03.232511.15266@CS.ORST.EDU> wilsont@prism.cs.orst.edu (Timothy E. Wilson) writes: >I am just starting up with C programming on the ST. >I borrowed the book "Applications guide: programming in C, for the ST" by >compute! books. >I'm trying to use Sozobon 1.33i with it. I'm trying to get a gem library >up and going but no luck, nothing compiles. >all gemdefs.h and obdefs.h have been changed to gemfast.h . > >but the cc compiler gives me crap on most of the lines, even though they are >verbatim from the book. > >so basically, Does anyone have a C Gem library? does AA have one? > >secondly, Where could i find source code for playing back standard sounds? >(maybe the source to keyclick.ttp?) > > thanks! Sozobon DOES have a C library, it is in 'aesfast.a' and should be set up in your /sozobon/libs directory. When you run cc.ttp, make sure to enter your source file name followed by aesfast.a, so the command line might look like this : > cc program.c aesfast.a And of course make sure you include in the program, I think this will fix the problems, as I have used the AES library fine with Sozobon. Ben Gilbert (tymbrimi@u.washington.edu) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 23:20:25 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!actrix!Roger.Shep pard@arizona.edu (Roger Sheppard) Subject: FTP To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Feb4.013939.29525@rhrk.uni-kl.de> weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT]) writes: > Roger.Sheppard@actrix.gen.nz (Roger Sheppard) writes: > > >Can some one help me a FTP site, this is the cs.uni-sb.de [134.96.252.31] > >is it fully operational.? > > >All that I can get up to is a date/time line and then it stops/hangs..!! > > I have been in there yesterday night. > But nslookup here reports 134.96.7.254 > Better you check the number out... > > Regards > > Christoph Weber-Fahr > > -- > Christoph Weber-Fahr | E-Mail: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de > Universitaet Kaiserslautern, KIT/IVS | S-Mail: Postfach 3049 > Tel. 0631/205-3391 | D-6750 Kaiserslautern > -------------------------- My personal opinion only --------------------- Yes I have found those 2 site numbers to, and they both work, but I only get to were the system shows the Time/Date then stop.. So how is it that cs.uni-sb.de can have 2 site numbers,,[134.96.7.254] and [134.96.252.31]...??? I will try that site again.. -- *** Roger W. Sheppard * Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz *** *** 85 Donovan Rd * * GEnie. R.SHEPPARD5 *** *** Kapiti At least I don't Flicker, *** *** New Zealand.. * not like a dying light globe *** ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 22:17:02 GMT From: psinntp!newstand.syr.edu!rodan.acs.syr.edu!ggreenbe@uunet.uu.net (Gerald Greenberg) Subject: GCR help To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Feb4.151901.9839@sae.com> malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes: >I stumbled across a mystery. Yesterday I booted up the STe from an ICD w/clock >equipped SCSI drive. The date was 3 FEB 1992, the time 10:03PM. I launched >the Spectre program, popped into MAC-mode and created a file - I viewed the >folder by name and noticed the date-time stamp was 4 FEB 1992 10:05PM - why >is the MAC clock ahead by a full 24 hours???? Is there something that needs >to be done to "sync" the Atari and the MAC clocks?? > >Bob Malay > > Much to my surprise, I have the same "problem". I am almost positive that I used to have the correct date under Spectre (but I admit that I haven't looked in quite a long time). I was wondering if this situation might have anything to do with the fact this is a leap year? --Gerry PS. I've got an ST, not an STe with an ICD clock-equipped hard drive kit. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 03:00:23 GMT From: noao!ncar!uchinews!linac!att!oucsboss!oucsace!bwhite@arizona.edu (William E. White) Subject: How to make a gnu cross-compiler?? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu Yes it's me again. :-) I'm trying to get the most recent gnu C compiler to compile on a Decstation (ghod knows what. I think a 3100), so that it produces a nifty little output file that'll work for TOS. However, there seem to be no docs, and the Makefile was ... ahem ... less than useful. So, for a poor ignorant fellow like myself, exactly *HOW* do I get the GNU C compiler to compile so that it's a cross-compiler? For one thing, there is a configuration shell script. What is it for, and how does one use it? What else do I need to do? Where is the default path and such? Please humor me, I've been working on a whitepages service in System V Unix for the past fifteen months. :-) As usual, email responses preferred. Thank you for your time. -- | Bill White +1-614-594-3434 | bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (normal) | | Standard login hours: | bwhite@view.cs.ohiou.edu (alternate) | | 1-3,5-7PM EST M-F (oucsace) | more info via `finger bwhite@view...' | ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 92 07:51:43 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.co lumbia.edu!src.honeywell.com!umn.edu!math.fu-berlin.de!unido!urmel!oli@arizona. edu (Oliver Bonten) Subject: HVDI? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker) writes: >What is HVDI? Is it just a screen accelarator like quick/turbo st? Why does >it have its own font? And, most importantly, is it freeware? >Any information, and I'll gladly bear your children. It's NVDI, and it is, unlike most screen accelerators, a completely new VDI (including GDOS), so it's supposed to work with more software than quick/turbo. In fact, I have no problems with it, except for some older games, where I have to switch off most features of NVDI using the ACC/CPX delivered. I have v2.02, however, and people say that up to 2.01 there were a lot of problems with dirty hacks in some quite standard applications. No, it's not freeware, the Price is % DM 99,- (from Bela Software) and I don't know if it's available outside Germany. But it is really good. Very recommended. Oliver -- Heute hack ich, morgen crack ich, uebermorgen hol ich mir dem SysOp sein Login. Ach wie gut dass niemand weiss, dass ich oli@math.rwth-aachen.de heiss. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Feb 92 06:03:11 GMT From: haven.umd.edu!wam.umd.edu!leonpoon@ames.arpa (Leon Poon) Subject: Maple For sale To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu I am selling Maple 4.2 for the ST, and I am asking for $80 OBO. If interested, please email me at leonpoon@wam.umd.edu. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Leon Poon | "A wise man changes his mind; | | leonpoon@wam.umd.edu | a fool - never." | ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 13:34:57 GMT From: aurs01!whitcomb@mcnc.org (Jonathan Whitcomb) Subject: MIDI To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Feb01.181610.4016@crash.cts.com> trag@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Trageser) writes: >I'm writing yet another Atari story for San Diego's ComputorEdge magazine, and >am trying to get a feel for what the most popular software/hardware >(keyboards, et al) set-ups are with Ataris. Also, any comments on why you use >an Atari for your MIDI rather than a PC or Mac. (I'm not a MIDI user; more DTP >and WP than anything else, so bear with me. . . .) I chose the Atari ST because it had the best price/performance ratio in its class for *any* application (in 1986) and especially MIDI. I still believe this is true for MIDI. Of course, the built in MIDI ports made it attractive as a user, but more importantly, it attracted many developers to the platform. I currently use a Mega ST4 with an SM124 monitor (a must for MIDI). Considering that the software for the ST is still state of the art, I have no reason to switch to another platform. In fact, the new ST Book portable will probably keep me firmly entrenched in the ST market. I use Dr.T's software almost exclusively. The primary reasons are: 1) They have been in the business for years and have continuously upgraded their software. Sequences I made years ago on my 1040 ST run fine on the newest software. 2) The programs are modular. Dr.T's has developed a "Multi Program Environment" (MPE), which allows many of their programs to run concurrently and share data. Economically, it allows me to build my system a piece at a time, when I can afford each new piece. 3) Support. The programmers are available on-line on GEnie, and provide answers to questions and bug fixes in a very short time. The tech info line is manned five days a week, and I receive upgrade notices and special deals on closeout software in the mail regularly. Since it's a US based company (as opposed to C-Lab or Steinberg/Jones), response time is amazingly fast. Bob Melvin (designer of the Caged Artist patch editors and X-oR universal patch editor/librarian/system exclusive data manager) is especially good in this regard, and has been known to respond to change requests within a two or three days. 4) The software is great. I use the KCS Omega sequencer, X-oR, T-Basic (an interpreted BASIC programming language with hooks into all of KCS's sequence data) and the Phantom (SMPTE sync interface and software). The interfaces are intuitive and the graphics are very useful. Anyone who still thinks that Dr.T's products just fill the screen with numbers hasn't seen them lately! The programs are extremely stable, and I have no problem using them with all of my regular ST system software installed. I recently bought Intelligent Music's RealTime sequencer and M composition and performance tool. My MIDI hardware setup is hardly state of the art, but it gets me by. I use a Korg 707 (8 voice multitimbral FM synth) primarily as a dumb keyboard. It's velocity sensitive and has aftertouch, and was quite cheap. The sounds aren't great, but I consider them as a free bonus with the keyboard. My main sound modules are the Korg P3 (piano) and Symphony (orchestra). Each are 16 voice multitimbral, and provide me with a limited range of sampled instruments. None of these instruments are new or expensive (I think that all three combined cost less than $1000), but it is important to note that many of the high priced MIDI instruments have built in sequencers and other features which are redundant with my software. I also don't need lots of memory in my synths, as I can store data on my ST using X-oR. In fact, all I look for in a new synth are good sounds, lots of outputs and good MIDI support of the internal functions, so I can usually save money buying the stripped down, small memory rack-mount versions. I also use an Alesis QuadraVerb GT, a Casio MG-510 guitar MIDI controller and a DMC MX-8 programable MIDI switcher. I've written X-oR profiles for the P3, Symphony and Quadraverb GT. My next major music hardware purchase will be an 8-track reel-to-reel. I was thinking of buying a Tascam TSR-8, but now that Fostex has worked up a MIDI interface with the ST, I will probably end up with an R8. The press reports from NAMM indicate that this interface will allow complete control of the tape transport via the ST, so you can basically thread the tape and not have to touch the machine for the rest of the session. The fact that Fostex is now working with ST software companies (I believe this interface is available from C-Lab, Steinberg/Jones and Dr.T's) is a great sign for the survival of the ST as a major MIDI platform. ********************************************************************** Jonathan Whitcomb UUCP: Alcatel Network Systems Delphi: JBWHIT Raleigh, NC GEnie: J.WHITCOMB3 ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 22:45:57 GMT From: noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!convex!constellation!uokmax!kllove@arizona.edu (Kenneth L Love) Subject: National (U.S.) Magazine Advertises Atari! (see message for details) To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu First off, I must apologize for the tabloidesque feeling to this article. However, (to me at least) it's like one of those headlines (like 'Elvis lives on Mars with alien mistress!') from the National Enquirer. I was reading Discover magazine when, to my unbelieving eyes, I beheld that most amazing of sights: a *TWO-PAGE* Atari ad! 'I heard this cry of strangled delight,' said one of his friends (who wishes to remain anonymous). He continues, 'When I rushed into the room, I found him passed out on the floor! After I woke him up, he was incoherent, but just kept pointing to the latest issue of Discover and gurgling happilly.' Yes, friends, this is what's happening all over the country as Atari supporters are struck unawares by this seemingly benign ad! It has effected so many people that some support groups have been started for those like the poor soul described above. If you know someone similarly effected, please call 1-800-555-HELP for the number of the closest group to your area. Some of you may wish to know what is in this ad. Well, I must tell you it is NOT for the faint of heart. Skip to the end of this article if you are of that persuasion. Here goes: the first page has a picture of a large screened computer (TT? Mega STe? Nobody in the know of these things has been able to speak after viewing the ad!), a big board with a LOT of switches on it (a super graphic-equalizer?), and this guy manipulating both of them with ease. In a text description below it describes how easy it is to use Atari computers to manipulate stuff (I haven't got the advert in front of me at the moment or I'd be more descriptive. Come to think of it, maybe it's better I'm not. There would be too many computer users accros the country slumped over their keyboards....). Also, included are some of the company/ product names that produce MIDI software. The second page (I didn't pay much attention to this one) was all about the Portfolio. Well, I hope I didn't scare off too many people with this post. If you feel the need to respond to this message please do it by e-mail. I'm looking for more places that Atari's have been showing up. Side note: I saw T2 and this Atari ad on the same day (Saturday, Feb. 1) and it was almost too much to bear (not really, but it sounds good)! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenneth Love | 15725 NE 63rd | "Who is this /dev/null person anyways? Choctaw, OK 73020 | And why does he like so many flames?" kllove@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu | -- Me ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 22:39:14 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!constellation!uokm ax!occrsh!fang!att!cbnewsd!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com!hojo@arizona.edu (HC Johnson) Subject: pcditto software on a TT? To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article , Martin_Koehling@un.maus.de (Martin Koehling) writes: > In article > wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes: > > >In <1992Jan27.043129.2193@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, William Magro writes: > >> Has anyone tried the PCDitto software emulator on a TT? If so, does Did you know that PC-Ditto I will output error messages and crash dumps on the RS232 port. This is how its was debugged. All you need is to get the terminal port set up under TOS and hook a terminal (or another ST with a term emulator) to it. What it prints is useful. Howard Johnson ATT BELL LABS att!mtgzy!hcj hcj@mtgzy.att.com ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 19:53:55 GMT From: noao!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!pacific.mps.oh io-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!rlcollins@arizona.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins) Subject: Several Question that need answered To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Jan31.134432.24370@newcastle.ac.uk>, D.M.Johnson@newcastle.ac.uk (Dave Johnson) writes: > I was doing some work on my machine last night and installed a desktop acc > called snapshot, I am also running running xcontrol. When this program was > installed the machine refused to change rez from low to med (or med to low). I > got a random number of bommbs (most common was 7) and once I got an alert > saying something like stack overflow (I think). Them machine is an STFM 520 > with TOS 1.4 and 2.5megs. Can only one explain the problem? (It stopped when I > removed snapshot.) Were you remember to "shutdown" xcontrol before changing rez? (I figure you were.) If I want to get screen shots, I use grabber2.acc, which I got from Atari.archive. (I know it works with TOS 1.4, but I haven't tried it with xcontrol loaded.) Later....... ------======={{{{{{{{((((((Ryan 'Gozar' Collins))))))))}}}}}}}}=======-------- Atari Computers: "The Game is never over" rlcollins@miavx1.BITNET Power Without The Price R.COLLINS1 on GEnie ------======={{{{{{{{(((((( My 1040STF Rocks!! ))))))))}}}}}}}}=======-------- ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 22:25:52 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!constellation! uokmax!occrsh!fang!att!cbnewsd!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com!hojo@arizona.edu (HC Johnson) Subject: STe and Mark Williams C To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <1992Feb3.213409.26908@unlinfo.unl.edu>, witts@hoss.unl.edu (Rick Wittstruck) writes: > I'm considering the purchase of an Atari STE so that I can easily > upgrade to 4 megs of ram, plus blitter stuff etc, but I am worried about > my Mark Williams C package. I've heard that MWC will not work on TOS > versions 1.04 and above. Is this true? Has anyone tried to use MWC from > hard disk with an STE? It's crucial that I find out before making my > purchase, so please give any information if you can! > Any comments much appreciated! > I have MWC, and TOS 1.4; an ST, not STE. The problem is the debugger, which has wired into it: 1. a list of TOS versions (1.4 is not there) 2. a strategy on accessing TOS based on version. Since the strategy for 1.4 did not change since 1.2, which is there I just hacked 1 byte to validate 1.4. Works. To complete the story, the debugger works, but bombs when it exits. It doesn't not bother me. It might you. If you are used to the "UNIX" was of compiling, you will greatly enjoy MWC. Howard Johnson ATT BELL LABS att!mtgzy!hcj hcj@mtgzy.att.com ------------------------------ Date: 4 Feb 92 22:13:24 GMT From: noao!asuvax!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!constellation!uokm ax!occrsh!fang!att!cbnewsd!cbfsb!cbnewsb.cb.att.com!hojo@arizona.edu (HC Johnson) Subject: TOS 1.4 ROM problem To: Info-Atari16@naucse.cse.nau.edu In article <807@mwuk.UUCP>, tony@microware.co.uk (Tony Mountifield) writes: > > Help! > > I have just bought a set of six TOS 1.4 ROMs amd tried to install them > in my old 520STM (not STFM). They don't work :-( > > The ROMs were labelled H0 H1 H2 L0 L1 L2. The original ROMs were not. > Looking at my circuit, it appeared that they should go in the following > sockets: > > U2 = H0, U3 = H1, U4 = H2, U5 = L0, U6 = L1, U7 = L2 > Your ROMS (EPROMS) sound like illegal copies. Atari numbers them U1-U6 and you place them in order as stencelled on the mother board. Your set, seems labeled from a readout of the Atari Memory space. There are 6! ways to scramble them. That makes 15 I think. Write down all the premutations, and try each one. Remember, you only get to plug one in upside done once. Then its cooked. Also, if any pin folds under the chip, the whole computer will not work. Good Luck! Howard Johnson ATT BELL LABS att!mtgzy!hcj hcj@mtgzy.att.com ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari16 Digest ******************************